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. >> jon: first of all, not reading someone their miranda rights doesn't mean they don't have their miranda rights? ( laughter ) you have miranda rights under the constitution. you don't have to say them out loud for them to become real. ( laughter ). you're thinking beeblghtjuice. the only reason you have to read them is so whatever the suspect has done or did, whatever they do say is admissible at their trial. it's another hallmark of our constitutionally guaranteed right to due process. >> i think it's a mistake not to treat him as an enemy combatant. >> we ought to treat him as an enemy combatant and move him to a military tridiewnl. >> jon: it's like "guns & addresses," ted kaszinsky, and ramsey youssef, went city to city singing med lees of original hits and-- what's that? really, dead or in prison, huh? who am i thinking of? oh, the muppets. oh, all right. i get it. ( laughter ) ( applause ) well, to be fair, they both tried to take manhattan. ( laughter ). so in the wake of an assault on our freedom and way of life, we have quickly jettisoned the sixth amendment right to a fair tria
. >> jon: first of all, not reading someone their miranda rights doesn't mean they don't have their miranda rights? ( laughter ) you have miranda rights under the constitution. you don't have to say them out loud for them to become real. ( laughter ). you're thinking beeblghtjuice. the only reason you have to read them is so whatever the suspect has done or did, whatever they do say is admissible at their trial. it's another hallmark of our constitutionally guaranteed right to due...
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. >> the other thing, the miranda rights, you have your miranda rights whether they are read to you or not. >> that's the thing. that's what i was talking about. the romance of reading the right. it is absurd. we have rights and we don't read them. to me miranda is the equivalent of civil rights. it is like reminding black people they don't have to sit at the back of the bus every time they get on the bus. >> i am so glad you both say that. if i could mention that -- >> that was a great analogy. >> yes, it was very good. >> i was actually looking at it from the complete flip side of you, tom. my view is, and this is to me i don't understand, but conservatives now seem to be arguing the government gives us these rights and can withhold them. it is an old position for conservatives to take. my point is, you have this right and the government may not infringe upon whether they tell you or not. unless a confession is voluntary it can't be used against you in a court of law. it doesn't mean no one in authority can never ask you a question. and to tom's point, if it happens to be true that w
. >> the other thing, the miranda rights, you have your miranda rights whether they are read to you or not. >> that's the thing. that's what i was talking about. the romance of reading the right. it is absurd. we have rights and we don't read them. to me miranda is the equivalent of civil rights. it is like reminding black people they don't have to sit at the back of the bus every time they get on the bus. >> i am so glad you both say that. if i could mention that -- >>...
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not just miranda. it's miranda, it's the engagement of lawyers and it's an entirely different scenario. do you think we will have trouble prosecuting this guy? >> of course not. we don't need his confession. >> why didn't we wait? >> wait, wait. >> that would have been completely lawless. don't blame the justice department -- >> wait, you just said it was an act of terror. >> of course. >> and a crime. >> and you can still prosecute later, but in the meantime before you offer miranda rights, get some of america's best interrogators in there and you find out what this guy knows. is he connected to a larger cell? are there pending attacks? are there foreign links? where did the training come from? how did you learn to make the bombs? basic simple questions this we need to know because the safety and security of the american people in this case i think are paramount. >> sean, do you know who gave him his miranda rights? >> i don't know exactly who but we were told he was. >> a federal judge, a magistrate
not just miranda. it's miranda, it's the engagement of lawyers and it's an entirely different scenario. do you think we will have trouble prosecuting this guy? >> of course not. we don't need his confession. >> why didn't we wait? >> wait, wait. >> that would have been completely lawless. don't blame the justice department -- >> wait, you just said it was an act of terror. >> of course. >> and a crime. >> and you can still prosecute later, but in...
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with law enforcement authorities, since having his miranda rights read, we're joined by randy zellen. it looks like federal government, specifically the justice department screwed up in bringing federal magistrate judge into tsarnaev's room to be read his rights. >> well, i think it depends on what you are focused in oi almost want to say like catching our wife in bed with another man, and saying is that milk fresh in the fridge. fridge. >> according to you we're not in the right room. >> we might be. now are you trying toy there me ouch. the question, what were we trying to accomplish with regard to the interrogation, if you try to -- you don't need his statements he isot going to get fair trial, he is not getting a jury of his peers, there is more than sufficient evidence to punch out his ticket to wherever you go in his religion after you die. if you get information on a broader scope, were they going to do this in other places, were they connect with anyone else, then i would say yes government screwed up who cares if the confession gets tossed on out. lou: if we may, going with r
with law enforcement authorities, since having his miranda rights read, we're joined by randy zellen. it looks like federal government, specifically the justice department screwed up in bringing federal magistrate judge into tsarnaev's room to be read his rights. >> well, i think it depends on what you are focused in oi almost want to say like catching our wife in bed with another man, and saying is that milk fresh in the fridge. fridge. >> according to you we're not in the right...
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miranda isn't in the constitution. what the court should look at is it the confession voluntary not whether a specific set of words were read. rehnquist ended up upholding it because of star idecised us. kind of a stretch that the precise words are necessary. >> geraldo: military tribunal. >> i already answered that. give me a break. you don't have to read miranda to a rapist. the rape is over. we are not worried about another bomb. >> geraldo: say it in english. court or tribunal? >> oh, court or tribunal. i suspect we need to know a little more information but certainly looking like a military tribunal. >> geraldo: do you want it to be a military tribunal? >> depends on the facts but looks like yes, this was. >> geraldo: quadruple murder and four death sentences on this guy. >> i don't care what the guys were saying during the commercial break. a military tribunal done properly are does not give the defendant as many protections as a mere criminal in the united states. >> geraldo: robert first and then bo. >> i feel
miranda isn't in the constitution. what the court should look at is it the confession voluntary not whether a specific set of words were read. rehnquist ended up upholding it because of star idecised us. kind of a stretch that the precise words are necessary. >> geraldo: military tribunal. >> i already answered that. give me a break. you don't have to read miranda to a rapist. the rape is over. we are not worried about another bomb. >> geraldo: say it in english. court or...
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miranda isn't in the constitution. what the court should look at is it the confession voluntary not whether a specific set of words were read. rehnquist ended up upholding it becae of star idecised us. kind of a stretch that the precise words are necessary. >> geraldo: military tribunal. >> i already answered that. give me a break. you don't have to read miranda to a rapist. the rape is over. we are not worried about another bomb. >> geraldosa it in english. court or tribunal? >> oh, court or tribunal. i suspect we need to know a little more infmation but certainly looking like a military tribunal. >> geraldo: do you want it to be military tribunal? >> depends on the facts but looks like yes, this was. >> geraldo: quadruple murder and four death sentences on this guy. >> i don't care what the guys were saying during the commcial break. a military tribunal done properly are does not give the defendant as many protections as a mere criminal in the united states. >> geraldo: robert first and then bo. >> i feel like a 9th
miranda isn't in the constitution. what the court should look at is it the confession voluntary not whether a specific set of words were read. rehnquist ended up upholding it becae of star idecised us. kind of a stretch that the precise words are necessary. >> geraldo: military tribunal. >> i already answered that. give me a break. you don't have to read miranda to a rapist. the rape is over. we are not worried about another bomb. >> geraldosa it in english. court or tribunal?...
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. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and mayor thomas menino are about to speak about the formation and purpose of the one fund boston campaign. designed to assist those who are affected by last week's bomb attacks. this takes place as dzhokhar tsarnaev lies in a hospital bed facing charges. his condition now reported as fair. more than a week after the bombing, 45 of the scores of wounded remain hospitalized, and at least 13 have lost limbs. for the victims, the physical and emotional toll comes with a very real financial one as well. massive bills for trauma care, prosthetic limbs and even home modifications. not to mention, lengthy physical rehab and psychological counseling. as such, one fund boston is stepping in to help. already raising over $10 million for victims and their families. and while the injured struggle with recovery, the families of t
. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and mayor thomas menino are about to speak about the formation and purpose of the one fund boston campaign. designed to assist those who are affected by last week's bomb attacks. this takes place as dzhokhar tsarnaev lies in a...
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they didn't give a miranda warning so the aclu is shouting about that. and of course, well-known southern bell lindsey graham, why isn't he being treated as an enemy combatant? that one to me -- >> what about benghazi? >> shut up. >> stephanie: i'll always have benghazi. it is my terror. no. >> i would never go thirsty again. i'll have another mint julep thank you. >> stephanie: the legal expert i heard this weekend said this is a nonstarter to treat him as enemy combatants. did he a crime on u.s. soil. >> peter king said this. >> i believe -- should be portrayed as enemy combatants. senator mccain, senator graham, senator ayotte, there are so many questions unanswered so many potential links to terrorism here. the battlefield is now in the united states. i believe he is an enemy combatant. ultimately, he will be tried in a civilian court and the statements taken from him cannot be used against him in that trial. right now, the only links we have as much as chechnyan involvement in the islamic movement. are there other conspirators out there? where do th
they didn't give a miranda warning so the aclu is shouting about that. and of course, well-known southern bell lindsey graham, why isn't he being treated as an enemy combatant? that one to me -- >> what about benghazi? >> shut up. >> stephanie: i'll always have benghazi. it is my terror. no. >> i would never go thirsty again. i'll have another mint julep thank you. >> stephanie: the legal expert i heard this weekend said this is a nonstarter to treat him as enemy...
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was signal would by not reading the miranda rights when they captured him. it could mean that and could mean the opposite of that. in the meantime eric shaun has the latest from boston right now. >> hi, neil, they could be filing them under a civilian case under those chargeless. federal charge of at the same time state murder charges and that's what sources are telling fox newings, the reason he was not given the miranda rights is that under the law, under a approximate exemption that has to do with immediate threats to the police or public. there is a part of the law that said you don't have to give miranda rights to a suspect to immediately protect the police in a life or death situation. the idea is that when they got him in the boat, they don't know if there are other plots or bombs or devices that the brothers had allege wouldly planted. that was a way to get immediate information about the type of threat they may have posed. dzhokhar remains here in the hospital in serious condition. he lost a lot of blood and suffered two gunshot wounds one in the ne
was signal would by not reading the miranda rights when they captured him. it could mean that and could mean the opposite of that. in the meantime eric shaun has the latest from boston right now. >> hi, neil, they could be filing them under a civilian case under those chargeless. federal charge of at the same time state murder charges and that's what sources are telling fox newings, the reason he was not given the miranda rights is that under the law, under a approximate exemption that...
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deemed sensitive to national security was placed in detention upon arrival at heathrow airport david miranda partner of guardian journalist glenn greenwald was held for nine hours is the maximum time a person can be held using laws designed to catch a terrorist you know one of the reasons why we're so concerned and when i look at the work chris freedom department does which is which has a global reach one of the issues that we have united kingdom is saying about. freedom with a very strong record on ensuring that it. can write the new and so so for around. here. the press freedom situation in the united kingdom is this sliding and this is of great concern it is twenty thirteen freedom of speech seen here reporters without borders gives the satisfactory situation rating but for freedom of the press britain slipped from nineteenth in two thousand and ten to its current ranking of twenty ninth many are concerned that should chill serving of the terrorism act the law used to detain miranda is actually being used to stop journalists doing their job of holding people in power to account rather tha
deemed sensitive to national security was placed in detention upon arrival at heathrow airport david miranda partner of guardian journalist glenn greenwald was held for nine hours is the maximum time a person can be held using laws designed to catch a terrorist you know one of the reasons why we're so concerned and when i look at the work chris freedom department does which is which has a global reach one of the issues that we have united kingdom is saying about. freedom with a very strong...
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we'll be bringing you all the latest twists and turns from the controversial legal case of david miranda. america's huge soon to be open new spy complex is the target for outrage with authorities failing to keep the public away from what was supposed to be a secret facility. they put it inside of the middle of an army base so you can you have to go to the protest of the army to protest the n.s.a. . activist bases the already notorious data center in utah which will host super computers able to store piles of phone e-mail and search engine data that has been harvested. and peace in ruins pakistan says attempts to negotiate with islamist militants have been destroyed after a u.s. drone killed the leader of the taliban country. from our headquarters in moscow you're watching archie with me and he said now a our top story british authorities say the partner of the newspaper reporter glenn greenwald has been publishing edward snowden's leaks was involved in espionage and terrorism the accusation was made in a scotland yard document which is being used as evidence in a london court hearing let
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now the document was put together it was read pardew's the legal action that david miranda has launched against the british government that's calling for the documents that were taken for him to be returned and questioning indeed the legality of his detention if he calls to mind back to the end of august he was detained when he arrived from thailand at heathrow airport question for nine hours and had his documents seized from him sheet that was read in court saying that the intelligence indicated that miranda was likely to be involved in espionage activity and that had the potential to act against the security interests big long green was reportedly responding saying that they are absolutely explicitly now equating terrorism and journalism and of course that is going to be causing huge concern this is part of going to play here in the u.k. surrounding press freedom at the moment and causing a huge amount of concern just earlier this week we reported on the prime minister david cameron seeming to issue a bail threats towards newspapers saying that if they didn't show some restraint in pu
now the document was put together it was read pardew's the legal action that david miranda has launched against the british government that's calling for the documents that were taken for him to be returned and questioning indeed the legality of his detention if he calls to mind back to the end of august he was detained when he arrived from thailand at heathrow airport question for nine hours and had his documents seized from him sheet that was read in court saying that the intelligence...
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intended to detain david miranda but says that the citizen was london alone lawyer and writer eva gold interest says that while many be it may be strictly true it's not the whole story. this is clearly violating all concepts of what freedom of the press are i mean we're talking about a journalist a media outlet for journalists who are now also being threatened intimidated their spouses partners as well being detained and interrogated and so clearly i mean there's been a decision made that anything related to edward snowden must the capture it no matter what violating anyone's rights the rights of journalists the rights of the media and basic civil rights in general we're talking about a search that's going on for edward snowden or for a search and capture as it would be knowing where he is and they're trying to get it by any means necessary and it's the united states just leading that effort it's not the u.k. and it's not of the european nations what i believe is that the washington to simply put out there to all of its allies look anyone related to edward snowden must be detained if t
intended to detain david miranda but says that the citizen was london alone lawyer and writer eva gold interest says that while many be it may be strictly true it's not the whole story. this is clearly violating all concepts of what freedom of the press are i mean we're talking about a journalist a media outlet for journalists who are now also being threatened intimidated their spouses partners as well being detained and interrogated and so clearly i mean there's been a decision made that...
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scandal with glenn greenwald now miranda was returning from berlin to brazil and transferring through london's heathrow airport and that's where the british police stopped him detained him and told him that he would be questioned and the schedule seven of the terrorism act now it's a court of actual law because it allows the police sweeping powers to basically question and detain any individual and miranda was held as you said for nine hours in london's heathrow airport that's the absolute maximum time that the police are allowed under this law to detain an individual before they're either release them or arrest them now ninety seven percent of the people that are questioned under this law are released within one hour it's extremely rare for the police to question anybody for that maximum allocated time of nine hours but miranda was eventually released he was allowed to continue his journey back to brazil but not before the police confiscated all of his electronic equipment including his mobile phone his laptop memory sticks a camera d.v.d.'s and even games consoles well judging by gl
scandal with glenn greenwald now miranda was returning from berlin to brazil and transferring through london's heathrow airport and that's where the british police stopped him detained him and told him that he would be questioned and the schedule seven of the terrorism act now it's a court of actual law because it allows the police sweeping powers to basically question and detain any individual and miranda was held as you said for nine hours in london's heathrow airport that's the absolute...
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well reaction to mr miranda's detention has been nothing short of an outcry and we've got some of it here for you the overwhelming message of course is that this was the law overstretching reporters without borders calling it inexcusable amnesty international commenting commenting to calling it a petty and vindictive action on behalf of the u.k. the brazilian government that unjustified detention of its citizen well author david swanson says david moran does detention is a warning really to all journalists engaged in sensitive work there will be exceptions there will be people like greenwald who say i'm inspired to continue all the harder and edward snowden and others but for the most part we are hearing journalists say my sources are drying up we're seeing journalists get scared and we're seeing journalists move aggressively to the side of the government the effect is going to be fear and intimidation the broadest effect and discrediting of the united states government but i think if you ask the u.s. government or the u.k. government if they're willing to talk about it they'll say t
well reaction to mr miranda's detention has been nothing short of an outcry and we've got some of it here for you the overwhelming message of course is that this was the law overstretching reporters without borders calling it inexcusable amnesty international commenting commenting to calling it a petty and vindictive action on behalf of the u.k. the brazilian government that unjustified detention of its citizen well author david swanson says david moran does detention is a warning really to all...
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now washington admits it was notified of britain's plans to detain david miranda but insists the u.k. acted alone lawyer and gone juror says that while that may be strictly true u.s. policy is certainly and speired the move this is clearly violating our concepts of what freedom of the press are i mean we're talking about a journalist a media outlet and journalists who are now also being threatened intimidated and it's the united states just leading that effort it's not the u.k. and it's not of the european nations what i believe is that actually going to simply put out there to all of its allies look anyone related to everett snowden must be detained if they come into your territory and the u.k. abided by that and did their duty so. when is that sort of intellectual off or behind the detention of david and whether or not they were directly involved they were notified we know that the white house has admitted to that and that notification in itself shows that the u.k. felt they had to tell the u.s. hey look we've got one of the guys you know it was that they were looking for the approv
now washington admits it was notified of britain's plans to detain david miranda but insists the u.k. acted alone lawyer and gone juror says that while that may be strictly true u.s. policy is certainly and speired the move this is clearly violating our concepts of what freedom of the press are i mean we're talking about a journalist a media outlet and journalists who are now also being threatened intimidated and it's the united states just leading that effort it's not the u.k. and it's not of...
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bill: are you okay with him not being read his miranda rights? >> i am. at this point i think it's perfectly fine. again i don't think it matters under what exception. you can always mirandize this individual, but the important thing is that get the information now. bill: i have not heard a lot of people disagree with that. >> think about the opposite what if they had read him the miranda rights and what if he had clammed up and what if there, god forbid been another attack that we could have seen coming if we had questioned the guy. just think of the conversation if there was a second attack that we could have prevented because we let the guy clam up. bill: this particular decision was broadened two years and and changed by executive order. that is something the president put in action in case you would have an event like this. that you could possibly have active, ongoing terror attacks or threats of terror attacks that could endanger the safety of the public. >> that's why i think he's done the right thing by not giving him the ability to be quiet. we n
bill: are you okay with him not being read his miranda rights? >> i am. at this point i think it's perfectly fine. again i don't think it matters under what exception. you can always mirandize this individual, but the important thing is that get the information now. bill: i have not heard a lot of people disagree with that. >> think about the opposite what if they had read him the miranda rights and what if he had clammed up and what if there, god forbid been another attack that we...
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scandal with glenn greenwald now miranda was returning from berlin to brazil and transferring through london's heathrow airport and that's where the british police stopped him detained him and told him that he would be questioned undiscovered jewel seven of the terrorism act it's extremely rare for the police to question anybody for that maximum allocated time of nine hours but miranda was eventually released he was allowed to continue his journey back to brazil but not before the police confiscated all of his electronic equipment including his mobile phone his laptop memory sticks a camera d.v.d.'s and even games consoles this was however something that glenn greenwald's had predicted would happen although he had assumed that it would be the u.s. government that would take this sort of action let's take a listen now to what he said there are certainly. reason to think about what the u.s. government might want to do in terms of. me specifically for the journalism we're doing but it's not anything that's going to constrain me or deterred me or to be in any way we're going to continue t
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he was not red his miranda rights. they used a rarely used public safety, but they should not have invoked that because he no longer threatens an attack to society and he should get an attorney as soon as possible before he is interrogated. >> thank you. >>> federal law enforcements are weighing in on the rights and the status of the accused boston bomber, should he be treated as a criminal or enemy combaton with no rights? >> you have the high value interrogation group. they are skilled. they know how to do this. the miranda right can be read at a later time. >> four lawmakers including congressman pete king of new york believe he should be tkes eug nateed as a poe term enemy combaton. a conviction is likely so he is more interested in intelligence the suspect can offer. >>> thousands of runners at the london marathon paid tribute today to pay tribute to those killed and injured. they observed 30 seconds of silence before the start of each group of racers. many wore black ribbons in tribute. they set up a fund for the
he was not red his miranda rights. they used a rarely used public safety, but they should not have invoked that because he no longer threatens an attack to society and he should get an attorney as soon as possible before he is interrogated. >> thank you. >>> federal law enforcements are weighing in on the rights and the status of the accused boston bomber, should he be treated as a criminal or enemy combaton with no rights? >> you have the high value interrogation group....
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was not involved in the questioning but was alerted by british authorities before miranda was detained for more on the potential fall outs of this latest episode i'm joined now by political commentator sam sax sam what is the message do you think that british authorities were trying to send here or is there a message it's purely intimidation and i think everybody involved from glen greenwald to mr murray and to everyone who's written about this is your nose can see right through it that this was strictly about intimidation you mentioned the section seven of the terrorist act here most of the people who are detained here well over ninety percent are released very quickly almost virtually no one stays more than seven hours let alone the maximum nine hours which mr miranda was held there but as unprecedented as this is i mean really journalists know that certain things come with the trade laura poitras who he was who he was visiting she gets stopped routinely when she comes back in the united states journalists you know sort of weird as a badge of honor the fact that they have to deal wit
was not involved in the questioning but was alerted by british authorities before miranda was detained for more on the potential fall outs of this latest episode i'm joined now by political commentator sam sax sam what is the message do you think that british authorities were trying to send here or is there a message it's purely intimidation and i think everybody involved from glen greenwald to mr murray and to everyone who's written about this is your nose can see right through it that this...
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but legislation has been asking for an explanation on why the police have treated miranda this way why was it necessary to keep it in for as long as minor because at sixteen really unusual you're looking at no more than a very few dozen people a year who are kept for that length of time why was it that they wanted to question him the police are only allowed to ask questions aimed at determining whether somebody is a terrorist is that what they thought and if so on what basis now this as this story continues to develop and continues to unfold we're getting a glimpse of what appears to be how far the a british government is willing to go in order to get a hold of those information or destroy the data that the guardian has and just stop the reporting on the global surveillance and covered by edward snowden well reaction to mr miranda detention has been nothing short of an outcry and here's just a little of what's being said glenn greenwald cold and intimidation reporters without borders sat it was inexcusable amnesty international comma to say it was a petty and vindictive action by the u
but legislation has been asking for an explanation on why the police have treated miranda this way why was it necessary to keep it in for as long as minor because at sixteen really unusual you're looking at no more than a very few dozen people a year who are kept for that length of time why was it that they wanted to question him the police are only allowed to ask questions aimed at determining whether somebody is a terrorist is that what they thought and if so on what basis now this as this...
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questioned under the terrorism act in britain is threatening the government with legal action david miranda is lures are demanding the return of his laptop and other equipment within a week and want to stop any inspection of them the british government has been under fire ever since detaining miranda and forcing the guardian newspaper to destroy files containing n.s.a. data and laura smith are joining us now live from london laurie lovely to see what's the latest development in the legal case of david miranda. well this is a story that gets more and more bizarre as it unfolds with high level government involvement we now know and now david miranda lawyers who have come out threatening legal action against the government as you say saying they want his belongings returned they don't want any further search and search is performed against him he of course was detained at heathrow for nine hours and questioned all his electronic devices taken away his his passwords goes out to him for investigation by the security services we actually have got a small clip of what his lawyer said so let's list
questioned under the terrorism act in britain is threatening the government with legal action david miranda is lures are demanding the return of his laptop and other equipment within a week and want to stop any inspection of them the british government has been under fire ever since detaining miranda and forcing the guardian newspaper to destroy files containing n.s.a. data and laura smith are joining us now live from london laurie lovely to see what's the latest development in the legal case...
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david miranda and his spouse glen green would. they are speaking out for the first time. green wald has been edward snowden's conduet to the world. sunday he was heading home from berlin having met with a documentary film maker who has been working with green wald. while changing planes in london, british athouthorities detained miranda and interrogated him. as you'll hear on 360, miranda claims they didn't ask him about terrorism but threatened him with jail time and confiscated his laptop and memory sticks. just a short time ago for the first time since the incident, i spoke with david miranda and glenn greenwald. david, there has been a lot of misreporting on this. you were on a plane and there was an announcement everyone had to show passports and then what happened? >> i walk out, and there was two officers just waiting by the door of the plane, and they were just like checking people. they pick up my passport and they looked at my name and face and just ask me, sir, can you acompany me? i went with them. we went to this room, and there was four chairs in there and a
david miranda and his spouse glen green would. they are speaking out for the first time. green wald has been edward snowden's conduet to the world. sunday he was heading home from berlin having met with a documentary film maker who has been working with green wald. while changing planes in london, british athouthorities detained miranda and interrogated him. as you'll hear on 360, miranda claims they didn't ask him about terrorism but threatened him with jail time and confiscated his laptop and...
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the computers and hard drives in the office now this was written by the editor just a day after david miranda the partner of glenn greenwald of the guardian a journalist that had first written about it though say and it's a global surveillance information that he was detained miranda was detained at heathrow airport for about nine hours questioned by about six agents now he was detained under such a schedule seven of the terrorism act two thousand of this allows the police to basically detain anyone for up to nine i was in question that but miranda had told the b.b.c. that he was not actually asked questions about terrorism but in fact questions about the activities of guardian journalists with regard to and this is a story is he also talked about what exactly happened at that detention they were threatening me all the time in saying i would be prudent jury which i didn't cooperate they treated me like i was a criminal or someone about to attack the u.k. it was exhausting and frustrating i knew i wasn't doing anything wrong so there's already been an outcry from politicians understandably jou
the computers and hard drives in the office now this was written by the editor just a day after david miranda the partner of glenn greenwald of the guardian a journalist that had first written about it though say and it's a global surveillance information that he was detained miranda was detained at heathrow airport for about nine hours questioned by about six agents now he was detained under such a schedule seven of the terrorism act two thousand of this allows the police to basically detain...
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was a great critic of miranda. when it came to the question -- should it be overruled -- he wrote the decision that said no, miranda has become part of our culture, part of the way police must be paid. -- behave and this court will adhere to miranda. i think that was a decision of major importance. you wanted two more -- griswald? that was the case that said -- it was a connecticut law -- banning the use of contraceptives is unconstitutional. griswald started the line that ended with roe vs wade. i would rank that the case of major importance. >> [inaudible] >> yes. it was not that long ago. the first time that question came to the court was a case versus the commonwealth of virginia it was a frontal attack on tel law that made consentual sodomy a crime. lawrence v texas was not the kind of a grandstand play. it involved flesh and blood real people. it was a story that could be told. the court in lawrence v texas held that the texas law, making consentual sodomy criminal, was unconstitutional. one of the reasons i
was a great critic of miranda. when it came to the question -- should it be overruled -- he wrote the decision that said no, miranda has become part of our culture, part of the way police must be paid. -- behave and this court will adhere to miranda. i think that was a decision of major importance. you wanted two more -- griswald? that was the case that said -- it was a connecticut law -- banning the use of contraceptives is unconstitutional. griswald started the line that ended with roe vs...
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he may have been read his miranda rights by a judge as early as tomorrow. the republican lawmakers, of course, say the public safety exception doesn't go far enough, that he should be treated as an enemy combatant. we do not want this suspect to have the right to remain silent. here is a little bit more about what they said. i'll put this graphic up on the screen. this is from a statement released by those republican lawmakers who say we have concerns limiting this investigation to 48 hours and exclusively relying on the public safety exception of miranda could very well be a national security mistake, they call it. they could severely limit our ability to gather critical information about future attacks from this suspect. alex? >> okay. thank you for that latest from the white house, peter alexander. >>> some staggering numbers associated with the world's biggest marathon and a massive security effort trying to prevent another attack. we have a live report next. >>> and boston strong, some poignant and defiant moments as the city returns to life. [ male an
he may have been read his miranda rights by a judge as early as tomorrow. the republican lawmakers, of course, say the public safety exception doesn't go far enough, that he should be treated as an enemy combatant. we do not want this suspect to have the right to remain silent. here is a little bit more about what they said. i'll put this graphic up on the screen. this is from a statement released by those republican lawmakers who say we have concerns limiting this investigation to 48 hours and...
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legal action against the british government little by david miranda questioning got to see all the action is now well underway bringing you all the latest twists and turns from here in london. and other news america's huge soon to be opened new spy complex is the target for outrage for the already failing to keep the public away from what was supposed to be a secret facility. they put inside of the middle of an army base so you can protest to the army to protest the n.s.a. action has been seen as the already in a tory is data center in utah which will host super computers able to store piles of phone e-mail and search engine data that has been hard. and in ruins the sound of attempts to negotiate is from the militants have been destroyed after a u.s. drone killed the leader of the taliban in the country. oh. it's seven pm here in moscow this is archie coming to you live ammunition now way with our top story this saturday british authorities say the partner of glenn greenwald who has been publishing edward snowden's leaks was involved in espionage and terrorism the accusation was made in a
legal action against the british government little by david miranda questioning got to see all the action is now well underway bringing you all the latest twists and turns from here in london. and other news america's huge soon to be opened new spy complex is the target for outrage for the already failing to keep the public away from what was supposed to be a secret facility. they put inside of the middle of an army base so you can protest to the army to protest the n.s.a. action has been seen...
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authorities decided to withhold reading his miranda rights. as time passes, does the justification for this wear off and in your opinion does the u.s. and investigators stand to regret that? >> they will regret it i think. a, there was never a basis for the public safety exception because when they announced it, the police announced there was no public safety danger. they arrested everybody. didn't think there was a risk to the public. why will they come to regret it? they think the case will be made based on videotapes and civil evidence. there are two elements to every crime. that is the crime itself which they have no problem proving and the intention. now, in order to get the death penalty, they have to prove a terrorist intention. in order to do that, they may get the information from him without having mirandized him and that information may get kept out of a trial. they may have blown the death penalty by not giving him his miranda warnings. >> we talk about public exception, the questioning is limited in scope. do you think there's pot
authorities decided to withhold reading his miranda rights. as time passes, does the justification for this wear off and in your opinion does the u.s. and investigators stand to regret that? >> they will regret it i think. a, there was never a basis for the public safety exception because when they announced it, the police announced there was no public safety danger. they arrested everybody. didn't think there was a risk to the public. why will they come to regret it? they think the case...
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i don't think the miranda argument is particularly important in the end. they'll convict him if he lives. and if they don't give him miranda warnings, maybe they'll get more information about if there are other individual involved in this conspiracy. >> do you think that's part of it? other individuals involved? as someone who's been in the situations before, how big a concern is that, of the decisions tonight? >> sure. it's not about getting additional evidence against him. the public safety exception is to find out whether or not there is explosive devices out there that would cause some harm to the public -- >> which they're worried about. they don't know where all the pipe bomb went. >> sure. it's an absolute right to use the public safety exception in these circumstances. or is there an act of conspiracy beyond him and his brother. that's important for law enforcement to get to the heart of that as quickly as possible. >> that's an important point. we've been talking about, you know, they thought during the day that he could have some of those pipe bo
i don't think the miranda argument is particularly important in the end. they'll convict him if he lives. and if they don't give him miranda warnings, maybe they'll get more information about if there are other individual involved in this conspiracy. >> do you think that's part of it? other individuals involved? as someone who's been in the situations before, how big a concern is that, of the decisions tonight? >> sure. it's not about getting additional evidence against him. the...